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		Airman04061969 Big Diamond
  
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Dar de ce trebuie sa te specializezi ? Afara de situatia cand vrei sa fii istoric ! Trebuie sa studiezi istoria tarii a carui cetatean esti (cum fac americanii, vrei cetatenie americana, treci si invata istoria noastra !). Daca tii mortis, la "ma-ta acasa" (deci si la mama mea) poti sa inveti istoria oricarei tari si minoritati, dar nu la scoala ! _________________ Bogdan Voicu
 
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		andreic silver member
  
  
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				De ce nu ?
 
 
De ce luam noi romanii numai exemplele alea nasoale... in loc sa luam ceva bun de la europeni.
 
 
Cand spui scoala asta e invatamant la modul general, normal ca nu o sa-ti bage nimeni istorie optionala la clasa 3-4... asta se face mai incolo. | 
			 
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		Airman04061969 Big Diamond
  
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:29 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Care europeni ? Pentru ca francezii, germanii, britanicii, olandezii, toti invata doar istoria tarii lor si nu istoria minoritatilor ! _________________ Bogdan Voicu
 
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		zozolina gold member
  
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				plus ca nici n-avem multi evrei in romania. si scuza-ma...sunt mai multi tigani decat evrei. a lor de ce n-o facem? e mai palpitanta ca-s si nomazi.. _________________ indifference - it takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face | 
			 
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		marius Marius
  
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:22 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				pai...tigani suntem cu totii mey   
 
Invatam istoria lor dar nu ne dam seama   | 
			 
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		zozolina gold member
  
 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:49 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				irelevant, marius   poate ios si evreica si nu-mi dau seama    _________________ indifference - it takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face | 
			 
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		andreic silver member
  
  
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Airman04061969 wrote: | 	 		  | Care europeni ? Pentru ca francezii, germanii, britanicii, olandezii, toti invata doar istoria tarii lor si nu istoria minoritatilor ! | 	  
 
 
Am fost foarte clar, tu ori te faci ca nu intelegi ori nu poti. Am fost de N ori in Franta si au cursuri facultative pentru cei care vor sa invete despre Arabi sau Africani... ca la iei sunt multi... ce e asa greu de inteles..... of.... Englezii au pentru Galici si alte popoare vechi din jurul lor, ce e drept inrudite, nu au de evrei. La noi se invata despre Aromani ? Nu... de ce ? Ca le stim pe toate   Dar despre diaspora se specifiac ceva la scoala ? Nuuuuu... de ce oare ? Aia nu ami sunt romani ?    
 
 
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plus ca nici n-avem multi evrei in romania.
 
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Mergi la Asociatia Evreilor din Romania si o sa ramai surprinsa cati sunt (si cati or fi neinregistrati)  
 
 
In rest tigani sunt intradevar mai ales in sudul tarii, dar e o problema, ei au un nivel de cultura asa slab incat nici limba scrisa nu au... ce sa inveti atunci, ca Bulibaza e tare si mare ?   Dar cei de la Discovery ii apreciaza se pare   Si apropo, sunt scoli tiganesti.
 
 
Realitatea e ac sunte mult prea rasisti... | 
			 
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				 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				ideea ramane ca nu-i corect sa inveti nici optional (la scoala) despre o minoritate sau alta. daca te intereseaza subiectul inveti din alte surse, pe cont propriu. daca ar vrea invatamantul romanesc sa faca un bine, sa bage istoria tiganilor facultativa. p-aia cred c-as face-o.
 
ps: la cate filme americane sunt cu evreii (stiti voi..aia care i-au lasat sa sufere ca ei nu s-au bagat decat tarziu in razboi) suntem deja in tema _________________ indifference - it takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face | 
			 
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		Airman04061969 Big Diamond
  
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				 Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:18 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | marius wrote: | 	 		  pai...tigani suntem cu totii mey   
 
Invatam istoria lor dar nu ne dam seama   | 	  
 
Speak for yourself, OK ! Eu nu ma simt tigan ! _________________ Bogdan Voicu
 
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		Airman04061969 Big Diamond
  
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				 Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:27 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Andrei Cioaca wrote: | 	 		  
 
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plus ca nici n-avem multi evrei in romania.
 
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Realitatea e aceasta suntem mult prea rasisti... | 	  
 
 
Si ce vezi tu rau in asta ?    _________________ Bogdan Voicu
 
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		andreic silver member
  
  
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				 Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				E foarte rau, rusinos si degradant chiar...    
 
 
Trebuie sa luptam importiva raismului, a segregarii si a celor care se cred "the right guy" si propaga ura intre oameni.
 
Adu-ti aminte ce a facut politica asta la americani in anii 70... | 
			 
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				 Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				americanii sunt ..speciali, si oricum au oamenii de culturi si credinte f variate. la noi nu prea e cazul   _________________ indifference - it takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face | 
			 
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		andreic silver member
  
  
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				 Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| la noi e tara tuturor posibilitatilor... e tara lui capra vecinului ! | 
			 
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