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skullpder silver member
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 326 Location: Bucuresti
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: Spiritul de turma sau cum naiba sa-i mai zic |
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De multe ori nu-mi vine sa cred cat de usor se lasa influentati si manipulati romanii. Am ajuns sa fim prototipul individului ratat care sta toata ziua la tv si se uita de dimineata pana seara la telenovele si la stirile de la ora 5 (daca mai exista) sau savureaza din plin nefericirea si nenorocirile altora la tot felul de show-uri de tot rahatul. Cand e vorba de pus botu la ce apare pe ecran sau ce scrie in ziar suntem campioni.
Care-i cauza? Saracia? Prostia? Incultura? Numai romanii sunt turme de oi sau e fenomen global?
Si acum sa dau exemple din categoria "fenomenul de turma":
-cazul Maggi (caz actual)
-falsul faliment al BCR (acum cativa ani)
-sfarsitul lumii (31 decembrie 1999)
-treaba cu cutremurul pe nustiucat februarie 2005
-Caritas-ul la inceputul anilor 90
-mesajele alea tampite care circula pe YM se pare ca au mare succes la romani.
si multe altele dar nu imi vin acum in minte. _________________ Cind oamenii sunt liberi sa faca ce vor, de obicei, se imita unul pe altul. |
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Posted: Post subject: Acorda-ne putina atentie |
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anca gold member
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 660
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Spiritul de turma sau cum naiba sa-i mai zic |
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care mesaje pe ym? _________________ I didn't see the time...and I waited half my life away |
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skullpder silver member
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 326 Location: Bucuresti
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Cretinatati din alea cu virusi pe telefonul mobil, sa trimiti mesajul la toti din lista si o sa ti se intample ceva frumos, etc _________________ Cind oamenii sunt liberi sa faca ce vor, de obicei, se imita unul pe altul. |
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anca gold member
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 660
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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cred ca e un fenomen general.nu doar noi romanii suntem indoctrinati de tot felul de prostii, in principal de media.
in alte tari e chiar mult mai rau... _________________ I didn't see the time...and I waited half my life away |
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Airman04061969 Big Diamond
Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 2396 Location: Addison (Texas)
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ati incercat sa vedeti ce cretinatati (ca stadiul de stupizenii, e depasit de mult) se intampla prin Vestul "civilizat" ? Va recomand cu incredere sectiunea "Oddly enough" de pe Yahoo! News. _________________ Bogdan Voicu
("Good judgement comes from experience but experience comes from a lot of (previous) bad judgements"). |
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anca gold member
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 660
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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nu
dar a-propos de tv am vazut emisiuni de divertisment ale francezilor sau italienilor.
in schimb ii respect la stiri.nu o sa vedeti niciodata pe post accidente decat cele cu efecte devastatoare
ma rog, ar fi multe de discutat pe aceasta tema _________________ I didn't see the time...and I waited half my life away |
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Airman04061969 Big Diamond
Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 2396 Location: Addison (Texas)
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Asta ca sa vedeti si voi cata "inteligenta" exista in unele persoane din SUA:
(sursa: "Oddly Enough" Yahoo! News). Nu are nimic de a face cu sexul, rasa sau religia ! Asta ca sa fiu "politically correct !"
A client called in inquiring about a package to Hawaii.
After going over all the cost info, she asked, "would it be
cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii?"
I got a call from a woman who wanted to go to Capetown. I
started to explain the length of the flight and the passport
information when she interrupted me with "I'm not trying to
make you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts." Without
trying to make her look like the stupid one, I calmly explained,
"Cape Cod is in Massachusetts, Capetown is in Africa."
Her response....click.
A secretary called in looking for hotel in Los Angeles. She
gave me various names off a list, none of which I could find I
finally had her fax me the list. To my surprise, it was a list
of hotels in New Orleans, Louisiana. She thought the LA stood
for Los Angeles, and that New Orleans was a suburb of L.A. Worst
of all, when I called her back, she was not even embarrassed.
A man called, furious about a Florida package we did. I
asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he
was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that is
not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state. He
replied, "Don't lie to me. I looked on the map and Florida is
a very thin state."
I got a call from a man who asked, "is it possible to see
England from Canada?" I said, "No." He said "but they look so
close on the map."
Another man called and asked if he could rent a car in
Dallas. When I p**a up the reservation, I noticed he had a
1-hour lay-over in Dallas. When I asked him why he wanted to
rent a car, he said, "I heard Dallas was a big airport, and
I need a car to drive between the gates to save time."
A nice lady just called. She needed to know how it was
possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:20am and got
into Chicago at 8:33am.
I tried to explain that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois,
but she could not understand the concept of time zones. Finally
I told her the plane went very fast, and she bought that!
A woman called and asked, "Do airlines put your physical
description on your bag so they know who's luggage belongs
to who?" I said, "No, why do you ask?" She replied, "Well,
when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on my
luggage that said FAT, and I'm overweight, is there
any connection?" After putting her on hold for a minute while
I "looked into it" ( I was actually laughing) I came back and
explained the city code for Fresno, California is FAT, and
that the airline was just putting a destination tag on her
luggage.
I just got off the phone with a man who asked, "How do I
know which plane to get on?" I asked him what exactly he
meant, which he replied, "I was told my flight number is 823,
but none of these darn planes have numbers on them."
A business man called and had a question about the documents
he needed in order to fly to China. After a lengthy discussion
about passports, I reminded him he needed a visa. "Oh no I don't,
I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those."
I double checked, and sure enough, his stay required a visa. When
I told him this he said, "Look, I've been to China four times and
every time they have accepted my American Express card. _________________ Bogdan Voicu
("Good judgement comes from experience but experience comes from a lot of (previous) bad judgements"). |
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tuffgirl can't touch this
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 4571 Location: ;)
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Intradevar americani astia sunt tare amuzantzi. Cate o data chiar i-ti vine sa le dai vero una cand ii auzi. Cred k fenomenul de turma e peste tot. Un exemplu : daca cineva trece strada pe roshu shi in spatele persoane este un grup care asteapta sa se shimbe semnalul, nimeni nu se mai uita sa vada daca intradevar s-a schimbat shi se trezesc toti in fatza la mashini. Asta e an every day thing. So no worries shi aici sunt robotzi. _________________ Those who wish to appear wise among fools, among the wise seem foolish.
- Quintilian, De Institutione Oratoria |
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bestiutza junior
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 10 Location: bucuresti
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:26 am Post subject: |
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in cazu de fata intr-adevar suntem o adevarata turma......dar nu cred ca suntem singuri care fac asa
de exemplu la rele si rautati..certuri si alte chestii sa vezi ce se desparte turma _________________ If You Really Know How It Feels To Be Left Outside Alone! |
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Hexa membru
Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 189
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Poti sa-i mai spui EFECTUL fenomenului de turma!
Sa ii lasam totusi pe altii unde acest procent este mult mai scazut decat la noi.
Spune-i unuia de la noi ca se da ceva gratis, sau ca se castiga bani dormind in fotoliu si sa vezi pe urma ce iese! |
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Anne diamond member
Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 1420 Location: candyworld
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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are raspandire mondiala efectul asta ... cred ca e in genetica noastra de oameni . cred ca tine de natura umana pana la urma eu cred ca acei factori care duc la efectul de turma sunt nepasarea , graba , delasarea , pesimismul , mediocritatea . ne e mai usor sa lasam pe altii responsabilitatea si noi sa actionam ca ei , sa nu mai gandim si noi daca este bine sau nu .
eu aveam un exemplu in cartea mea de psihologie , al unui caz real , asa ca nu ziceam in gluma cand spuneam ca tine de nastura umana .. se numeste Efectul Multimii sau cam asa ceva, intra intr-un fel de transa:
intr-o piata dintr-un oras o fata este omorata in bataie de prietenul ei , multimea este roata in jurul lor . toti au fost martori dar nimeni nu a reactionat . de fiecare data e asa ... daca ajung multi la locul faptei nimeni nu mai actioneaza pt ameliorarea situatiei .. e ceva de genul daca el face asa eu de ce sa nu fac si sa decurge totul .
si la un accident de masina daca ajunge o singura persoana acolo aceea se va ocupa de victima sa o scoata sa cheme salvarea . dar cand deja se strang multe persoane nimeni parca nu se mai gandeste la victima si pagube. _________________
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Cristina_TM gold member
Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 442
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:34 am Post subject: Spiritul de turma! |
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E adevarat ca exista un spirit de turma la romani.....dar cred ca in alte tari e mult mai rau. Airman that things were funny!!
Cred ca ar trebui sa analizam de unde porneste acest spirit de turma. Eu cred ca din adolescenta cand tinerii incearca sa ii copieze pe cei din jur pentru fi acceptati din grupul lor. Este un limbaj nescris al gastii. Mai departe fiind adulti incearca sa para oarecum nebunatici si unii de aceea fac asa ceva.....pentru a fi la moda. Desigur nu putem uita de incultura care este prezneta peste tot, fara scoala nu poti avea mari pretentii de la o persoana. Cade in capacana celor din presa sau media care au ca rol sa te convinga sa le fii client fidel!
Asta este marea problema la americani, sunt foarte multi inculti pentru ca trebuie tinuti sub supraveghere, pentru a fi controlati.
Be yourself!!
Criss _________________ Iubeste in fiecare moment al vietii tale si gandeste-te ca azi e ultima zi din viata!!! |
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prichindela bebe sexy
Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 602 Location: In You're Soul !!!
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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la noi in tara este ceva normal sa faci ce vezi la celalalt .....k sa nu fie cu un pas in fata ta ......pacat k nu sunt toti originali .ar fi cu totul alta lume .... asta este ! see ya ! _________________ Shewanna, Te Vom pastra Mereu in Suflet !!! |
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Cristina_TM gold member
Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 442
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: Spiritul de turma sau cum naiba sa-i spun! |
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Nu e numai la noi in tara normal comportamentul asta.....e cam peste tot! De ce ne vedem tot timpul pe noi? Eu cred ca in alte tari problemele sunt si mai grave pentru ca acolo situatia economica e mai buna si copii incep sa copieze comportamentul adultilor de la varste mult mai fragede decat cei de aici.
Besos,
Criss _________________ Iubeste in fiecare moment al vietii tale si gandeste-te ca azi e ultima zi din viata!!! |
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Woofy membru
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Cum a aparut spiritul de turma ? Eu cred ca prin marirea turmei! Asadar, cu cat turma se mareste, cu atat fenomenul spiritului de turma devine mai des, ba chiar un drog.. in fine, nush daca intelege careva ceva din cuvintele de mai sus. Vazusem un film, cica serial, in care unii traiau intr-o lume cu o populatie foarte scazuta (1 miliard de oameni pe intreg globul). Era o lume care controla populatia prin diverse metode.. si ce am vazut m-a cam pus pe ganduri: am vazut o lume cu oameni cumsecade, oameni buni, oameni decenti, societati perfecte.. oare asa ar fi fost peste tot daca populatia nu ar fi crescut in halul asta ? Am auzit ca pe undeva in china sau japonia se practica controlul natalitatii, incat sa nu se mareasca turma brusc.. in fine.. cred ca deviez de la subiect! Vroiam doar sa spun ca eu sunt unul din cei carora nu le place "in turma".. dar stiti ce patiti daca nu intrati in turma ? sunteti ignorati, priviti cu rautate.. asadar, cine se considera in afara turmei ? _________________ TRexoft Systems - Totul e posibil, imposibilul e doar mai greu! (Woofy dot lx dot ro) |
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